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BLACKTOWN AND DISTRICTS SOCCER FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION INC.
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD 08/08/07 AT FRANCIS PARK
ATTENDANCE I. WESTRAY, J. TAYLOR, D. SIM, L. ARCHER, J. NEAL,
N. TOOMEY, L. SMITH, J. BOYLE
APOLOGIES R. PALMER, I. McCUTCHEON
07/270 MSA suspended normal standing orders
07/271 SECRETARY MANAGERS REPORT
1. We may have a problem with Aquilina Reserve and the Grand Finals this year, hopefully it will be resolved tomorrow. Long discussion on alternative locations.
2. Southern Districts Association have informed us of 3 players playing with us and registered with them and a further 2 playing within the BDSFA are under long suspensions from Southern Districts.
Discussions ensued
Players from Eastern Creek AA-1, AA-2 and AA-4 are registered for both Associations, MSA That the players are declared ineligible as per the rules.
Noted: the fine to the club is $10,000. Discussion ensued.
Motion that the AA-1, AA-2 and AA-4 teams and registered players from Eastern Creek be removed from the competition and all points are removed and that all players are further suspended until 31/12/07. Motion carried
ID cards to be returned to the Office for the suspended players and team officials.
Motion that the fine be suspended and the club be written to and asked to show cause why the fine should not be imposed.
Discussion- issues raised on how to protect Clubs from such issues in the future, discussion included suggestions for Club membership rules, BDSFA player registration rules and better procedures for checking ineligible players.
Suggestion to have a offense called "Cheating".
Jack will look at a filter for registration uploads from Clubs to sort out ineligible players.
A player from Newbury O35-1 and a player from Eastern Creek AA-4 are under suspension from Southern Districts.
Discussion.
As the FNSW Suspended player list was not freely available to clubs this season, it is resolved that both players be expelled with no further action on the Clubs involved.
Discussion - Jack to report back to the committee
Clubs are to advise their Coaches of the cheating that has happened this year and that spot checks will be done and if anyone is found guilty of cheating the teams will be removed from the competition and points will be removed.
3. Roo Ball Gala Day - I had a meeting with Good Shepherd they will purchase the food and drinks and they asked if we will purchase any excess stock. Decision we will only purchase full boxes of stock and we will not purchase any perishables.
4. P & DC and Appeals - I suggest a visit to Sydney Branch and compulsory reading of the PDC & Appeals Board Policy for all concerned.
5. We had an abandoned match on Saturday, Laurie will have a report from the Match Review Committee hearing.
6. U14 girls Grand Final - Discussion
Motion that the points table be combined from the Matildas and Sapphires and the top 4 points scorers go into the final series based on points, goals for etc. Motion carried
Discussion on who will go to Champion of Champions
Motion that due to the split series of the U14 girls, the winner of the Grand Final will represent the Association at Champion of Champions
7. Champion of Champions is in Griffith for us, more details to follow
07/272 MSA resume normal standing orders
It was noted that Ian Westray left the meeting.
07/273 The minutes of the previous meeting were read and accepted.
Matters Arising: 07/267-3 Laurie asked for some guidelines for next time when this may happen. Jack noted that he had asked the Appeals Board for a directive but none was forthcoming. We will discuss this at a rules meeting. and speak with both clubs involved and come up with the best solution.
07/274 CORRESPONDENCE 1. Multibase invoice
2. Blacktown City Council re Francis Park No 2.
3. Glenwood Redbacks WWC Employment Identification number
4. Plumpton Oakhurst AAL-3 forfeit for this Saturday
5. Oakville United U7 Echidnas forfeit this Sunday
6. Parklea AA-1 forfeit this Saturday
7. Football NSW - Coaching Course Fees
8. Good Shepherd payment of account
9. Football NSW - HBA Champion of Champions
10. Doonside Hawks player R Sciarrelli has served her 4 match suspension
11. Glenwood Redbacks re C Erkotidis
12. Minchinbury Jets re match result on the website U10-4 should be Minchinbury 6 v Premier 0
13. Doonside Hawks payment of team sheet fines
14. Football NSW - Metropolitan League Final Series
15. Blacktown Premier U16-2 forfeit this Saturday
16. Sydney Branch meeting agenda
17. Kings Langley re results for U13-2
18. Glenwood Redbacks re two incidents on the weekend
a) AA-5 v's Rooty Hill
b) U17-1 v's Doonside
19. Minchinbury Jets re Under age player playing in AAL
20. Football NSW - Notice of meeting
21. Quakers Hill Junior re Path of History
22. Prospect United incorrect scores
23. Riverstone Schofields re players K Daly has served 1 match, M Jarvis has served 3 matches and B Talbot has served 1 match
24. Mt Druitt Town Rangers re letters from coach of U17's and player
25. Oakville United re score U10-2
26. Kings Langley re U14girls score
27. Football NSW - HBA Champion of Champions
28. Rooty Hill RSL YSC re incorrect score U9-4
29. Parklea re incorrect score AA-3
30. Football NSW statement
31. Haste Control Service invoice
32. Oakville United payment of accounts
33. CBA merchant statement
34. Quakers Hill Junior re player sent off in U15-2 green team
35. Quakers Hill Junior re score error U16-2
36. Plumpton Oakhurst re U15-3 table
37. Eastern Creek AA-1 forfeit
38. Minchinbury Jets re U14-1's
39. Blacktown St Pats forfeit Reserves this weekend
40. Kings Langley request to hold the Women's semi finals
41. Kings Langley disappointment over the AAL v's Riverstone decision
42. Football NSW - Development Pathways
43. Stanhope Indoor Soccer information
44. Seven Hills United appeal P & DC decision
07/275 MATTERS ARISING FROM CORRESPONDENCE
1. To Treasurer
4. To Comp Secretary
5. " " "
6. " " "
7. To Secretary
8. To Treasurer
9. To Secretary
10. Noted
11. To Secretary
12. To Recorder
13. To Treasurer
14. To Vice President
15. To Comp Secretary
16. To Secretary
17. To Recorder
18. To club concerned
19. To Secretary
20. " "
21. MSA that we will purchase some pavers
22. To Recorder
23. Noted
24. To Secretary
25. To Recorder
26. " "
28. " "
29. " "
30. To Treasurer
31. " "
32. " "
33. " "
34. To Secretary & P & DC
35. To Recorder
36. " "
37. To Comp Secretary
38. To Secretary
39. To Comp Secretary
40. " " "
41. To Secretary
42. " "
43. " "
44. To Appeals
07/276 CORRESPONDENCE OUT
1. Replies to emails
07/277 INCIDENT REPORTS
1. Anne Aquilina Reserve - Saturday AA-2 game abandoned, Sunday Ambulance called for U17 Mt Druitt player
2. Ashley Brown Reserve - no incidents
3. Best Rd Reserve - AA-6 Lourdes v's Quakers ambulance called for Lourdes player, Sunday no incidents
4. Coverdale - Saturday no roo ball referee's, problem with U6 lions Lourdes parent, Sunday referee injured during U15-2 game stayed to keep an eye on the club referee for U16-1 thank you
5. Glendenning Reserve - no incidents
6. Glenwood Reserve - Friday and Saturday no incidents, Sunday No referee's for AAL-3 and AA-5, incidents in U17-1 and AA-5
7. H.E.Laybutt Reserve - Friday no incidents, Saturday no referee's, Sunday no referee's and Rooty Hill AA-2 did not pay for linesman
8. Hanna Reserve - Saturday no referee's, Sunday no referee's, injury to player from Eastern Creek U12-3, incident with local rate payer
9. Harvey Park - Saturday no incidents, Sunday AA-3 player injured ambulance called
10. Heber Park - Saturday no incidents, Sunday no incidents
11. Lynwood Park - Saturday no incidents, Sunday U17-1 Kings Langley forfeited
12. Marayong Oval - no referee's on Saturday or Sunday
13. Minchinbury Park - Friday no incidents, Saturday verbal altercation with U8's Riverstone problem was sorted by Club President, Sunday no incidents
14. Morgan Power Reserve - no incidents
15. Morreau Reserve - Saturday ambulance called for U9-6 player, Sunday no incidents
16. Newbury - no incidents
17. Patterson Reserve - Saturday no referee's, Sunday no referee's
18. Popondetta Park - no incidents
19. Quakers Hill Park - Thursday, Friday, Saturday no incidents, Sunday player, parent and official abuse after U16g game
20. Schofields Park - AAL player injured ambulance called, AA-6 Quakers Hill player injured
21. William Lawson Reserve - Friday no incidents, Saturday Tigers U16 girl player injured, Sunday AAL-2 player from Prospect was injured, No referee's for games
22. Chopin Park - no incidents
07/278 INCIDENT REPORTS NOT RECEIVED
Colbee Park - C.S.I. Park -Mt Druitt Town Centre-Whalan Res & Cor Bouwer Reserve & Rooty Hill RSL -
07/279 MATTERS ARISING FROM INCIDENT REPORTS
4. To Referee's and Lourdes
7. To Referee's and Rooty Hill
8. To Referee's
12. " "
17. " "
21. " "
07/280 TREASURER'S REPORT
1. Budget tabled and it has been sent to clubs for the August General Meeting
2. MSA all outstanding accounts be paid.
3. Clubs are reminded that all outstanding accounts must be paid or fines will apply. All Clubs must be financial prior to teams playing in the final series.
07/281 REGISTRAR'S REPORT
1. As tabled
07/282 RECORDER'S REPORT
1. As tabled
2. All scores have been corrected.
3. We will send out a new table.
4. Clubs please note the Team Sheet Crew will be here on Saturday 18th August for team sheets to be delivered and then on Sunday night for Sunday team sheets. Clubs are asked to deliver Saturday sheets in on Saturday evening to enable semi finals to be organised immediately.
07/283 P & D C REPORT
1. As tabled
2. Case 636 the board recommend a fine of $200 be imposed to Kings Langley for breaching By Law 80.1 section K. Moved and carried
3. Case 637 the board recommend loss of points and a fine of $200 be imposed to Blacktown Workers for breaching By Law 80.1 section K. Moved and carried.
4. Case 648 the board made recommendations to the MC. MSA That the recommendations be changed to read:
That the AA-4 Riverstone team be stood down for 3 matches 2 of those matches deemed served and to stand down in round 18 and a fine of $200 be imposed.
That the Riverstone Executive be cited to appear before the MC at a date to be set by the Secretary Manager for determination that the secretary of Riverstone instructed the team to walk off the field. Note: Secretary asked permission to hold meeting after the season ends.
07/284 APPEALS REPORT
1. As tabled - Discussion about accepting additional evidence, changing the pleas from the P & DC hearings.
Jack - I have issues with the findings as the appeal was on severity of sentence IE an acceptance of guilt. Permission asked to Appeal further to Sydney Branch on the grounds that our Appeals Board Policy was not adhered to. Permission granted.
We need to look at the composition of the boards of the Appeals and P & DC
07/285 MATCH REVIEW and COMPETITION SECRETARY REPORT
1. AA-2 Marayong v's St Pats game abandonment.
Report tabled.
MSA that the MRC recommendations be accepted.
2. Roo Ball gala day times have been sent to the clubs. Grand Final times to be discussed next week.
07/286 VICE PRESIDENT'S REPORT
1. As tabled
2. Congratulations to our U13, 14, 16 and 18 boys all are minor premiers and we play on Saturday at VSP.
07/287 GENERAL BUSINESS
1. Laurie asked when will the penalty kick be taken for the Riverstone and Seven Hills premier game. Jack at the end of full time.
2. AAL Kings Langley v's Riverstone - Riverstone have since had a player suspended
The Appeals board recommended that the teams be as per the team sheet . I feel we must let the suspended player play.- granted
3. Roo Ball Gala day we will pay the referee fees.
4. Grand Final day clubs are asked to pay the Association for the referee's and we will arrange payment with the Referee's Branch.
5. John Boyle apology for next weeks meeting
meeting closed
Dane Sim
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Vice PresidentBLACKTOWN AND DISTRICTS SOCCER FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION INC.
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD 08/08/07 AT FRANCIS PARK
ATTENDANCE I. WESTRAY, J. TAYLOR, D. SIM, L. ARCHER, J. NEAL,
N. TOOMEY, L. SMITH, J. BOYLE
APOLOGIES R. PALMER, I. McCUTCHEON
07/270 MSA suspended normal standing orders
07/271 SECRETARY MANAGERS REPORT
1. We may have a problem with Aquilina Reserve and the Grand Finals this year, hopefully it will be resolved tomorrow. Long discussion on alternative locations.
2. Southern Districts Association have informed us of 3 players playing with us and registered with them and a further 2 playing within the BDSFA are under long suspensions from Southern Districts.
Discussions ensued
Players from Eastern Creek AA-1, AA-2 and AA-4 are registered for both Associations, MSA That the players are declared ineligible as per the rules.
Noted: the fine to the club is $10,000. Discussion ensued.
Motion that the AA-1, AA-2 and AA-4 teams and registered players from Eastern Creek be removed from the competition and all points are removed and that all players are further suspended until 31/12/07. Motion carried
ID cards to be returned to the Office for the suspended players and team officials.
Motion that the fine be suspended and the club be written to and asked to show cause why the fine should not be imposed.
Discussion- issues raised on how to protect Clubs from such issues in the future, discussion included suggestions for Club membership rules, BDSFA player registration rules and better procedures for checking ineligible players.
Suggestion to have a offense called "Cheating".
Jack will look at a filter for registration uploads from Clubs to sort out ineligible players.
A player from Newbury O35-1 and a player from Eastern Creek AA-4 are under suspension from Southern Districts.
Discussion.
As the FNSW Suspended player list was not freely available to clubs this season, it is resolved that both players be expelled with no further action on the Clubs involved.
Discussion - Jack to report back to the committee
Clubs are to advise their Coaches of the cheating that has happened this year and that spot checks will be done and if anyone is found guilty of cheating the teams will be removed from the competition and points will be removed.
3. Roo Ball Gala Day - I had a meeting with Good Shepherd they will purchase the food and drinks and they asked if we will purchase any excess stock. Decision we will only purchase full boxes of stock and we will not purchase any perishables.
4. P & DC and Appeals - I suggest a visit to Sydney Branch and compulsory reading of the PDC & Appeals Board Policy for all concerned.
5. We had an abandoned match on Saturday, Laurie will have a report from the Match Review Committee hearing.
6. U14 girls Grand Final - Discussion
Motion that the points table be combined from the Matildas and Sapphires and the top 4 points scorers go into the final series based on points, goals for etc. Motion carried
Discussion on who will go to Champion of Champions
Motion that due to the split series of the U14 girls, the winner of the Grand Final will represent the Association at Champion of Champions
7. Champion of Champions is in Griffith for us, more details to follow
07/272 MSA resume normal standing orders
It was noted that Ian Westray left the meeting.
07/273 The minutes of the previous meeting were read and accepted.
Matters Arising: 07/267-3 Laurie asked for some guidelines for next time when this may happen. Jack noted that he had asked the Appeals Board for a directive but none was forthcoming. We will discuss this at a rules meeting. and speak with both clubs involved and come up with the best solution.
07/274 CORRESPONDENCE 1. Multibase invoice
2. Blacktown City Council re Francis Park No 2.
3. Glenwood Redbacks WWC Employment Identification number
4. Plumpton Oakhurst AAL-3 forfeit for this Saturday
5. Oakville United U7 Echidnas forfeit this Sunday
6. Parklea AA-1 forfeit this Saturday
7. Football NSW - Coaching Course Fees
8. Good Shepherd payment of account
9. Football NSW - HBA Champion of Champions
10. Doonside Hawks player R Sciarrelli has served her 4 match suspension
11. Glenwood Redbacks re C Erkotidis
12. Minchinbury Jets re match result on the website U10-4 should be Minchinbury 6 v Premier 0
13. Doonside Hawks payment of team sheet fines
14. Football NSW - Metropolitan League Final Series
15. Blacktown Premier U16-2 forfeit this Saturday
16. Sydney Branch meeting agenda
17. Kings Langley re results for U13-2
18. Glenwood Redbacks re two incidents on the weekend
a) AA-5 v's Rooty Hill
b) U17-1 v's Doonside
19. Minchinbury Jets re Under age player playing in AAL
20. Football NSW - Notice of meeting
21. Quakers Hill Junior re Path of History
22. Prospect United incorrect scores
23. Riverstone Schofields re players K Daly has served 1 match, M Jarvis has served 3 matches and B Talbot has served 1 match
24. Mt Druitt Town Rangers re letters from coach of U17's and player
25. Oakville United re score U10-2
26. Kings Langley re U14girls score
27. Football NSW - HBA Champion of Champions
28. Rooty Hill RSL YSC re incorrect score U9-4
29. Parklea re incorrect score AA-3
30. Football NSW statement
31. Haste Control Service invoice
32. Oakville United payment of accounts
33. CBA merchant statement
34. Quakers Hill Junior re player sent off in U15-2 green team
35. Quakers Hill Junior re score error U16-2
36. Plumpton Oakhurst re U15-3 table
37. Eastern Creek AA-1 forfeit
38. Minchinbury Jets re U14-1's
39. Blacktown St Pats forfeit Reserves this weekend
40. Kings Langley request to hold the Women's semi finals
41. Kings Langley disappointment over the AAL v's Riverstone decision
42. Football NSW - Development Pathways
43. Stanhope Indoor Soccer information
44. Seven Hills United appeal P & DC decision
07/275 MATTERS ARISING FROM CORRESPONDENCE
1. To Treasurer
4. To Comp Secretary
5. " " "
6. " " "
7. To Secretary
8. To Treasurer
9. To Secretary
10. Noted
11. To Secretary
12. To Recorder
13. To Treasurer
14. To Vice President
15. To Comp Secretary
16. To Secretary
17. To Recorder
18. To club concerned
19. To Secretary
20. " "
21. MSA that we will purchase some pavers
22. To Recorder
23. Noted
24. To Secretary
25. To Recorder
26. " "
28. " "
29. " "
30. To Treasurer
31. " "
32. " "
33. " "
34. To Secretary & P & DC
35. To Recorder
36. " "
37. To Comp Secretary
38. To Secretary
39. To Comp Secretary
40. " " "
41. To Secretary
42. " "
43. " "
44. To Appeals
07/276 CORRESPONDENCE OUT
1. Replies to emails
07/277 INCIDENT REPORTS
1. Anne Aquilina Reserve - Saturday AA-2 game abandoned, Sunday Ambulance called for U17 Mt Druitt player
2. Ashley Brown Reserve - no incidents
3. Best Rd Reserve - AA-6 Lourdes v's Quakers ambulance called for Lourdes player, Sunday no incidents
4. Coverdale - Saturday no roo ball referee's, problem with U6 lions Lourdes parent, Sunday referee injured during U15-2 game stayed to keep an eye on the club referee for U16-1 thank you
5. Glendenning Reserve - no incidents
6. Glenwood Reserve - Friday and Saturday no incidents, Sunday No referee's for AAL-3 and AA-5, incidents in U17-1 and AA-5
7. H.E.Laybutt Reserve - Friday no incidents, Saturday no referee's, Sunday no referee's and Rooty Hill AA-2 did not pay for linesman
8. Hanna Reserve - Saturday no referee's, Sunday no referee's, injury to player from Eastern Creek U12-3, incident with local rate payer
9. Harvey Park - Saturday no incidents, Sunday AA-3 player injured ambulance called
10. Heber Park - Saturday no incidents, Sunday no incidents
11. Lynwood Park - Saturday no incidents, Sunday U17-1 Kings Langley forfeited
12. Marayong Oval - no referee's on Saturday or Sunday
13. Minchinbury Park - Friday no incidents, Saturday verbal altercation with U8's Riverstone problem was sorted by Club President, Sunday no incidents
14. Morgan Power Reserve - no incidents
15. Morreau Reserve - Saturday ambulance called for U9-6 player, Sunday no incidents
16. Newbury - no incidents
17. Patterson Reserve - Saturday no referee's, Sunday no referee's
18. Popondetta Park - no incidents
19. Quakers Hill Park - Thursday, Friday, Saturday no incidents, Sunday player, parent and official abuse after U16g game
20. Schofields Park - AAL player injured ambulance called, AA-6 Quakers Hill player injured
21. William Lawson Reserve - Friday no incidents, Saturday Tigers U16 girl player injured, Sunday AAL-2 player from Prospect was injured, No referee's for games
22. Chopin Park - no incidents
07/278 INCIDENT REPORTS NOT RECEIVED
Colbee Park - C.S.I. Park -Mt Druitt Town Centre-Whalan Res & Cor Bouwer Reserve & Rooty Hill RSL -
07/279 MATTERS ARISING FROM INCIDENT REPORTS
4. To Referee's and Lourdes
7. To Referee's and Rooty Hill
8. To Referee's
12. " "
17. " "
21. " "
07/280 TREASURER'S REPORT
1. Budget tabled and it has been sent to clubs for the August General Meeting
2. MSA all outstanding accounts be paid.
3. Clubs are reminded that all outstanding accounts must be paid or fines will apply. All Clubs must be financial prior to teams playing in the final series.
07/281 REGISTRAR'S REPORT
1. As tabled
07/282 RECORDER'S REPORT
1. As tabled
2. All scores have been corrected.
3. We will send out a new table.
4. Clubs please note the Team Sheet Crew will be here on Saturday 18th August for team sheets to be delivered and then on Sunday night for Sunday team sheets. Clubs are asked to deliver Saturday sheets in on Saturday evening to enable semi finals to be organised immediately.
07/283 P & D C REPORT
1. As tabled
2. Case 636 the board recommend a fine of $200 be imposed to Kings Langley for breaching By Law 80.1 section K. Moved and carried
3. Case 637 the board recommend loss of points and a fine of $200 be imposed to Blacktown Workers for breaching By Law 80.1 section K. Moved and carried.
4. Case 648 the board made recommendations to the MC. MSA That the recommendations be changed to read:
That the AA-4 Riverstone team be stood down for 3 matches 2 of those matches deemed served and to stand down in round 18 and a fine of $200 be imposed.
That the Riverstone Executive be cited to appear before the MC at a date to be set by the Secretary Manager for determination that the secretary of Riverstone instructed the team to walk off the field. Note: Secretary asked permission to hold meeting after the season ends.
07/284 APPEALS REPORT
1. As tabled - Discussion about accepting additional evidence, changing the pleas from the P & DC hearings.
Jack - I have issues with the findings as the appeal was on severity of sentence IE an acceptance of guilt. Permission asked to Appeal further to Sydney Branch on the grounds that our Appeals Board Policy was not adhered to. Permission granted.
We need to look at the composition of the boards of the Appeals and P & DC
07/285 MATCH REVIEW and COMPETITION SECRETARY REPORT
1. AA-2 Marayong v's St Pats game abandonment.
Report tabled.
MSA that the MRC recommendations be accepted.
2. Roo Ball gala day times have been sent to the clubs. Grand Final times to be discussed next week.
07/286 VICE PRESIDENT'S REPORT
1. As tabled
2. Congratulations to our U13, 14, 16 and 18 boys all are minor premiers and we play on Saturday at VSP.
07/287 GENERAL BUSINESS
1. Laurie asked when will the penalty kick be taken for the Riverstone and Seven Hills premier game. Jack at the end of full time.
2. AAL Kings Langley v's Riverstone - Riverstone have since had a player suspended
The Appeals board recommended that the teams be as per the team sheet . I feel we must let the suspended player play.- granted
3. Roo Ball Gala day we will pay the referee fees.
4. Grand Final day clubs are asked to pay the Association for the referee's and we will arrange payment with the Referee's Branch.
5. John Boyle apology for next weeks meeting
meeting closed
Dane Sim
Vice President
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